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[FEEDBACK]
Rock Hole: Sorry about that… I still want you to have your
hearing when you next go on tour or do some recording or something.
Ken Tamplin: What?
RH: I still want you to have your hearing when you next go
on tour.
KT: Which is what I’m gonna be finishing when I hang up,
haha!
RH: Alright, why don’t you start by telling me a bit about
the Wake the Nations project that you’re doing?
KT: Well, it’s a fun project, you know, I’ve got… let’s see
here, I was given the opportunity to work with a bunch of players and a bunch
of friends, and… You know, it started out being a record that I was approached
to do some time back by Z records, which was going to be an album called Crusade.
RH: I was gonna ask you how that turned out to be Wake
the Nations.
KT: Yeah, and you know, Mark had a lot on his plate, Mark
Alger, the owner of the label, and we just had decided mutually that I wanted
to do it maybe in a little quicker time frame than he wanted to. I had waited a
year and we still hadn’t moved forward on the album so we were able to move the
idea on to Now & Then records, which I’ve had other records on in the past
with Mark Ashton and he was exicted about the idea, so… He wanted to move on it
rather quickly so we started to move forward on Wake the Nations and
what wound up happening was literally after the whole project was almost a
finished, a buddy of mine named Niki Baldrain – I don’t know if you know him
from AOR Dreamzone?
RH: Nope, news to me. How do you spell his name?
KT: N-I-k-I B-a-l-d-r-I-a-n. Yeah, he’s a good friend, and I
had just done a song for his We All Come Together CD which is a big
benefit, New York Trade Center benefit CD. I had done a song with Doug Aldridge
[Lion/ Dio guitarist], and actually it’s the first song on the CD if I’m not
mistaken cuz it’s actually part of the title track of the album. The song is
called “We All Come Together” and the CD is called We All Come Together.
And anyway, he had said, “Hey, mate, what about getting some of these guitar
players to play on your album?” and I thought “Yeah, I did that back in the
Shout days on In Your Face, why didn’t I think of doing that for this
album?” So, with his help and the help of a couple of other people, I contacted
a bunch of other guys and the long and the short of it is we were able to
wrangle in some pretty unique talent and I think you probably know Marty
Friedman from Megadeth is on there, and Jeff Scott Soto from Yngwie Malmsteen.
RH: Yeah, I got the list off your website of the people that
you got.
KT: Oh good. We’ve got Reb Beach, Kee Marcello, Richie
Kotzen, Jeff Watson, Mattias Eklundh.
RH: You’ve always been really well connected and had great
players on your records...
KT: You know, I think when you strive to try to be the best
you can I think that breeds a respect with other people that are also in the
same mindset. And so, I think it’s just a mutual respect for talent. I don’t
know about being connected as much as just a mutual respect. You know what I
mean?
RH: Do you think that’s lacking in other Christian music
which is what’s held it back from being more successful?
KT: You know, I don’t know that I can speak for everybody
because if you see bands like POD, they’re pretty good…
RH: But they are being successful.
KT: Yeah, and Creed is pretty good, I think that there’s a
lot of people that have been incredibly talented that maybe haven’t been quite
so successful. Phil Keaggy for example is this absolutely phenomenal guitar
player. Did he get the recognition he deserved as far as the amount of talent
in equality to his ability? No, nowhere near, you know, he’s stuck in the
little Christian ghetto, you know what I mean? So, I don’t know that that’s
true right across the board, other than I’ve never tried to be one of these
guys that shoves the Bible down everyone’s throat. It’s a personal thing for
me. I’ve just tried to be… You know, when I tell somebody I’m gonna do
something, I do it, when I tell ‘em I’m gonna pay them something, I pay them on
time. When I tell them I’m gonna turn in a project, I turn it in on time. When
I tell them it’s going to be great, it’s going to be great. [laughs] You know?
And I think if we live our lives that way that speaks volumes about who we are
as people, and if we happen to be Christians in the process then I think that
elevates the visibility and authenticity of the title “Christian”.
RH: So it’s the way Christianity should be?
KT: Right. But unfortunately it isn’t, for the most part.
RH: Also you’ve had very intelligent lyrics, with references
to classics and Shakespeare. Do you think that, you know, actually having a
brain helps to increase your credibility?
KT: Well I actually think it’s a deficit in the Christian
market and the reason I say that is that it’s really bubblegum Christianity if
you listen to or if you look at what’s really successful in the Christian
market. It’s incredible superficial. My favourite lyricists of all time, who I
revere, are people like John Lennon and Dylan, and Sting, and Billy Joel, and,
you know, a lot of these, especially Lennon… Even though I may at a theological
level vehemently disagree with his spiritual and/ or ideological ideals, with
reference to God and, y’know… For example… I’d like to use an example. The song
“Imagine”, which everybody loves to quote. When I think of the song “Imagine”,
I think it’s genius. If I were to tell a Christian or a Pastor that, they would
think I lost my mind. Well, why it’s genius to me is I remember when I first
heard that song as a Christian really contemplating “Gosh, what would it be
like if there was no heaven?” You know what I mean? Now, I didn’t necessarily
look at it with the same view as he was trying to get me to look at it, however
he did engage me nonetheless and forced me to take a theological look at
myself, and I just though “Gosh if there’s no heaven…” and I thought that if
all that was here was this earth, what a pathetic thing I think I wanna go kill
myself [laughs]. This earth is far from perfect and it’s far from y’know ideal
and even if he was trying to imply peace, “give peace a chance”, that whole
thing I get that, however I think the depravity of man is inhibitive for us and
I don’t think that could ever happen. I think the more man get greedy and gets,
y’know, it’s gonna get worse and worse and worse. With that said, however, when
I heard it from “Imagine” I was just blown away going “This guy has the ability
to charm anyone with his lyrics into taking a look at his twisted perception.
Now, twisted in my mind as it may be, other people may agree with him. I’m
entitled to my opinion; that’s how I feel. However, the songwriting is genius.
I thought to myself, if I ever wanna get really good at my craft I must aspire
to that kind of excellence in lyrics. Otherwise, it’s worthless, and I don’t
even care if people like it or don’t like it, or buy it or don’t buy it. It’s a
personal best for me, you know what I’m saying. So anyway, I hope this isn’t
way over the top for you right now but with that said, I don’t look to… I look
to Shakespeare, I look to CS Lewis, I look to a lot of the great poets of our
time as my example and I try not to look to “What’s going on in this market?”
or “What’s this guy doing?” or “What’s that guy doing?” Because most people…
I’ve started to go on a rant, but if you look at art and culture. Both
entertainment… I don’t care if it’s art in paint form or architecture or
whatever, the decline of civilisation in the last 100 years is remarkable. I
mean if you look at…I don’t care if you look at movies. If you look at movies
from the ‘20s, 30s, 40s, 50s even, with Frank Capra’s It’s a Wonderful Life
and things like that you just… It’s amazing. No special effects or anything
like that yet you cry at the end of the movie every time you see it no matter
how many times you see it. I don’t care how many times you see it. Today, if
you look at a Schwarzeneggar movie and you cry cuz you just paid 20 bucks for a
pile of crap! [laughs] That’s true in most music. Not all but most music and
most art, in whatever form, painted, sculpture or whatever, and it’s also true
in architecture. Cruise around Europe a little bit and go “Gosh this is just
magnificent!” You know what I mean? And then you look at today and our greatest
claim to fame is the World Trade Center that just got bombed. [laughs] You
know, so…And I’m not trying to make light of that. I apologise if it comes off
that way.
Anyway, what my point is, is that I don’t want that. You
know, when I think about great singers I think about Aretha Franklin or Otis
Reading or Wilson Pickett. That’s what I want to aspire towards. I don’t… I
want greatness. Sorry to go on so long!
RH: That’s alright. It’s quite an interesting combination
you know, because you play commercial hard rock and at the same time deep
lyrics. A lot of equivalent bands are playing are saying really dumb-rock sex
lyrics without a lot of depth.
KT: Right, well, I think a lot of…. I think if you’re gonna
write about sex you should write about the complications of it, not just about
doing some 17 year old in a bar, you know what I mean? To me it’s just…
RH: Did you mention that to Reb Beach?
KT: No… why, is that what his lyrics are like? [laughs]
RH: Well, like “Seventeen” by Winger…
KT: Yeeeah, but I feel like that was at an era, what I’m
gonna call the sugar-gum power/ metal/ pop era, and I know what record labels
wanted. They want “She’s my cherry pie”, they want that. They wanted Warrant.
They wanted Winger, Cinderella; they wanted that thing. I don’t necessarily
hold them accountable if their single is like that. I think I would hold them
accountable if their entire record or career was like that. Does that make
sense? I get asked all the time to write stupid lyrics for movie soundtracks
and things. You know, they don’t want poetry. They want a stupid single that
they can have brain-dead people listen to and get for the first three seconds
and then listen to and get move onto the next dance. So…
RH: I was going to ask you about the guitarists you’ve got playing
on the album because you’ve got tons of them. Are they all on separate tracks
or jamming together like on “In Your Face”?
KT: Actually they’re almost all on separate tracks. There
are a couple that are on combined tracks. For example Reb Beach and Marty
Friedman are on the same song because the guitar solo is 24 bars long.
RH: Raaaawk!
KT: It’s a long guitar solo so it’s split up between the
two. Um there’s one other song… on “Hare Christian” Pete Lesperance does the
solo in the middle of the song and then there’s an outro that Stevie Salas
does. I’m trying to think… there’s one or two other songs like that where
there’s a main body solo and then some soloing at the end which might be… Like
Howie Simon did a lot of outro solos, where Jeff Watson is doing the main solo
or… something like that.
RH: What about you? Are you playing any solos?
KT: Yeah actually I am. I play quite a bit. I actually play
almost all of the rhythms and I play two solos. It was actually kinda fun for
me because I felt like it was an opportunity to have other guitar players know
that a strong guitar player was asking them to play on their record, so I felt
like I got out of them what I expected rather than just a cheesy solo. I
might’ve been a little… intimidating is not the right word, but… encouraging
for them to come up with something cool, which was great.
RH: Who plays the solo in “Wake the Nations”?
KT: It’s myself and Scott Van Zen.
RH: Because I downloaded that off the website and it
reminded me of Nuno Bettencourt, and I know he wasn’t on the album…
KT: But you see, I love Nuno’s stuff. I shoulda called him!
I didn’t even think about that. He’d have been someone I could have called.
RH: He woulda been wicked. Of course, there’ll be future
Tamplin albums where you can do this stuff…
KT: Yeah absolutely
RH: Because Reb Beach knows Andy Timmons [from Danger Danger
and also a soloist signed to Steve Vai’s label] as well, and he’s cool.
KT: Yeah that would be a good thing to do. Maybe you and I
should hook up and we should brainstorm on other players for the next album or
something!
RH: Well, you’ve gotta have me too!
KT: [laughs] Are you a great player?
RH: I wouldn’t say great, but I went to a guitar school last
year, so I try! Going back to the track “Wake the Nations”, it’s got some
pretty controversial lyrics on it.
KT: Yes. Very. What would you like to know about it?
RH: Well, are you worried about the response?
KT: I’m not really, because you have to understand I just
made an album called [Make Me Your Voice], and a lot of people I think if they
make statements on their records and they don’t back it up, I think that’s
pretty chicken-s---, if you know what I mean. If you make statements and you
live it and you breathe it, and it’s part of your life and you put your words
to action, then it’s really difficult to poke at someone. In other words,
here’s my point: I have a song called “Wake the Nations”, and it hits square in
the forehead at Islamic fundamentalism and there’s two songs on the album that
are like that. I don’t feel in any way that I’m talking about moderate Muslims
and I don’t feel in anyway way like I’m attacking the Muslim religion as a
whole, as much as I’m attacking the extremism and what’s happening all around
the world. Now, with that said, I don’t care if you look at Indonesia, I don’t
care if you look at North Korea, Palestine, Sudan, on and on and on… I could
give you some 20 odd countries where this Islamic jihad is happening…
all over the world. We just happened to be beneficiaries of that just over a
year ago with 9/11 and the Pentagon. With that said, I have made two albums
now, both which have done very well on EMI, called Make Me Your Voice.
And so what I did… I want everyone to know this is before 9/11. We made these
before… the first one was a year before 9/11, and we donated… I have big stars
on there like Andrae Crouch who did the Lion King, all the Gospel vocals
for the Lion King and Charlie Peacock and all these people, but I
personally, personally donated around $100,000 both in hard money, my time, and
recording of a stellar record, with I mean an orchestra, four different choirs;
just a gigantic album. EMI, I got them to put up another $100,000 to promote
the record that was non-recoupable against the record so that we could use 100%
of the royalties to go to the Sudan Aid, which is again blacks in the south
that are getting slaughtered; they’ve killed over 2,000,000 of these blacks in
the south, the Islamic extremist government. So with that said, I have been
watching this for some time. This is not some new fandangled thing that all of
a sudden I have some neurotic revelation after 9/11. I’ve been watching this
for several years now. Why I say… when, I can go out and write a song called
“We’ve Jihad Enough”, I didn’t write that only because of 9/11. I wrote that
because I have been living and breathing this and literally have donated one
half of my life and income to helping people, and I don’t care if they’re
Christians, Swahili, if they’re getting slaughtered by Islamic extremism, I’m
for their defence. For example, I’ve been helping Jewish organisations with
what happened with what’s going on in Palestine and other things, because
they’re getting beat up! It’s just wrong. It’s big bully. Islamic
fundamentalism is big bully, and they’re doing it all over the world. It’s just
a matter of time before they come to your home. With that said, if someone has
a problem with that, at least they can see that I’m not someone who’s just
blabbing words. I’m putting action to my words.
RH: Will there be another Make Me Your Voice in the
wake of 9/11 to do with that?
KT: A whole album you mean? No, not really. There’s a couple
of tunes on there… wait, let me back up. I would say yes, it’s a clarion call,
but it’s not just a clarion call to that specifically. Let me use an example. I
have a song on there called “The Man with the Plan”. It’s a song about who I
believe is the antichrist, who I believe someday will come with a plan for
peace, and will deceive everyone, but he’ll be a bad guy, okay? I have another
song called “Hare Christian” which is a play on the words “Hare Krishna”. The
reason I have that on there is because… I don’t know if you remember a movie
called The Stepford Wives but it was a movie about zombies; these women,
these wives that live in a small town and one by one they become these zombies,
out to get their husbands, right [chuckles]? At any rate, I feel like there’s a
majority of the Christians out there who… let me quote a couple of the lyrics.
For example, I’m an equal-opportunity offender [laughs] because I’m not just
going after Islamic extremism, I’m also going after my own brothers and sisters
in Christ, and the reason I do this is I feel there’s so much phoney-ness to
it. So for example the opening line is:
“I see people putting folks down so they can lift themselves
up,
Passing judgement on the world and all their sin,
Well let me tell ya, in heaven sits the judge no king can
corrupt,
How about we leave all the judging up to him?
I’m tired of all the Hare Christians.”
And so I’m not just… this is an awakening at a lot of
levels.
RH: That’s an important lyric. It’s something that needs to
be said.
KT: Yes. I don’t mind if… people can hate me for it. I don’t
make records for a living any more. I do this because I like to. My revenue comes
from film and television now, so I get to say things and make records because I
like to, not because I have to.
RH: So that presumably makes them more kind of artistically…
merited?
KT: Mmmhmm… And more critical too because I really wanna…
I’m doing it and I’m doing it because I want to make it great. It’s not about
spending extra money on the album; I do that anyway.
RH: You’ve collaborated with other musicians over the years
and especially this album, but you always produce stuff yourself. Did you ever
think about working with other producers and songwriters to bring in a new
aspect there as well?
KT: Absolutely. Sure. The caveat or the problem with that
is, again, the kind of records that I make, for example this album. If I had
hired out, have someone make this record, if I had done it for less than
$75,000 I would be surprised. With that said, I own a really nice studio in my
home, state-of-the-art everything you can possible imagine, I got killer
guitars, guitar amps, blah blah. The reality is, the kind of music that we do
and I like to do when I make a record for myself, the money is so low, so
ridiculously low, that it barely covers the guitars and the guitar players that
I have on the album, much less the recording costs, much less the studio time.
My room, for example, I charge $1000 a day and this record has taken me about
fifty days to make. That alone in studio time would be $50,000. When you think
about that in reality, or in light of that, I haven’t even paid a producer yet,
or an engineer, or whatever. So, unfortunately, because it’s inhibitive, or
money inhibitive to hire somebody like that, I would love to do that, but again
I just don’t see that happening just because the dollars and cents don’t make
sense.
RH: Yeah, well, your albums have been well produced anyway
so it’s not as if there’s a pressing need for you to get a producer.
KT: No, but it’s fun. I actually get to do it in film all
the time. There’s big budgets. I got to work with Stu Goldberg the ghost-writer
for Hans Zimmer for almost fifteen years. I get to do that in different areas,
just not necessarily in making hard rock records.
RH: Where do your influences in rock music come from?
Because when you talk about your influences you talk about Aretha Franklin,
Wilson Pickett, and soul and motown, but at the same time you’re kicking out
rock records.
KT: Right. Well, it’s kinda funny, because if you really
think about somebody like John Fogerty [Creedence Clearwater Revival], and from
him you think about David Coverdale [Ken does his best impersonation of the
Whitesnake singer]. You think about Fogerty and his real distorted,
middle-American, and then you think about Coverdale [impersonations of both to
show how similar they were]. Now, let’s go back to Wilson Pickett [sings “Mustang
Sally” and again, the similarity to Coverdale is remarkable], you know, it’s
big, distorted. It’s more than obvious that David Coverdale wanted to be Wilson
Pickett. Laugh but it’s really true, just like Michael Bolton wants to be Otis
Reading so bad he can taste it. Now why I say that is, if you look into Steve
Perry [Journey], right, and then you listen to Sam Cook. And Sam goes
“aah-aah-aah” [sings one of Sam’s trademarks] and that’s one of Sam’s famous
lines. Now, one of Steve Perry’s famous lines is “aah-aah-aah” [sings the same
thing]. I don’t know how you’re going to print that other than I just sang a
line that is identical to both people’s styles, but then you hear interviews
where Steve Perry says “Yeah, one of my favourite singers is Sam Cook” yeah?
Well no kidding! So why I say that is, when I think of my favourites, which is
again, Wilson Pickett, Otis Reading, Aretha Franklin just because she’s a
wailer, all those things transcend or translate into what we do as rock
musicians. It’s like I like a lot of different styles; I like flamenco guitar
playing. But all that stuff…. Like Yngwie Malmsteen loves the classical thing.
He just brought that into Pagannini on 10, you know what I mean? He just
brought that into a metal world.
Anyway, getting back to metal influences, vocals… it would
have to be more individual things like favourite guitar players have been guys
like Michael Schenker [Scorpions, UFO, MSG], and I love, obviously Stevie Ray
Vaughan’s one of my favourite players. I like… you’ve probably never heard of
this guy named Danny Gatten who just killed himself a few years back but he was
an amazing guitar player. I like Strunz and Farah, two amazing flamenco guitar
players. I loved [Al] Di Meola when I was growing up until I learned that he
had no soul, and then I wanted to be Jimmy Page and Joe Perry from Aerosmith,
and all those guys, and when I grew out of that I light John McLaughlin and I
liked Chick Corea and that whole movement. When I grew out of that I realised I
could say so much more with just one note and that’s when Steve Ray Vaughan was
just [sings one note for an implausibly long time] like “He’s playing one note
and it’s saying more than fifty I just played!” So we just go through these
things…and you listen to guys like Gary Moore; I wouldn’t say he’s one of my
all-time favourites but I like his playing, and this whole kinda similar-genre;
I like Satriani’s playing; you know what I mean?
As far as singing, I like early motown stuff, but I like
Paul Rogers [Free, Bad Company]. He’s better today I think than he was back in
his day. I like… Lou Gramm was another one of my favourite singers… so anyway,
they’re all just things that you grow on. It’s music… as far as actual bands
and stuff… We all like the Beatles, the Zeppelins, the Rolling Stones, and the
Who, and the Aerosmiths. And later on…I mean I had “Yes” tattood on my arm when
I was seven years old.
RH: Seven?!
KT: [laughing] I was seven!
RH: Your mum must have been thrilled.
KT: Oh, she flipped, yeah. [laughs] She threatened to cut my
arm off!! [erupts in laughter]. At any rate, later bands, there was Van Halen
of course, and those kinds of groups so…
RH: And Mutt Lange… is he a production influence? I hear a
little bit of that in…
KT: [Hesitantly] I think he was… For me the coolest thing
about Mutt Lange, believe it or not, for me, wasn’t Def Leppard, it was AC/DC.
I mean, think about it. The Def Leppard thing kinda came and went, and it set
new milestones in recording and I really loved it, really loved the vocals, I mean
everything strived to sound like a Def Leppard record, but it was kinda like
the emperor’s got no clothes, because it didn’t have quite the rawness, like it
was perfect for the time, but it didn’t have timelessness to it, whereas AC/DC
man, I don’t care what club you’re in in the world, the minute you hear that
four hits off the high-hat you, know [sings Back in Black], you just go “I
could hear that song ten years from now and still like it!” It just is what it
is. For me his [Mutt Lange’s] ingenious stuff was by far the AC/DC stuff.
RH: The record comes out in January right? I like the track
“Wake the Nations” a lot. You said the production was going to be more 21st-century
sounding. How are you mixing that with classic sounds?
KT: I say that from a fidelity standpoint, there were a few
little drum loops and things like that. I didn’t get too far off the beaten
path of what I need to stay true to, which is the straight-ahead hard rock/
hard commercial rock thing. I think that would be really disappointing for fans
when they’re expecting one thing and they get something else, but there are
some things… For example I have a song called “Cell Phone Freaks” okay? It’s
bagging on people that can’t drive… We should have, instead of bumper stickers
that say “Don’t drink and drive”, we should have ones that say “Don’t dial and
drive”! [laughs] It’s bagging on people that drive around and… almost get in
accidents with people. Anyway, it’s kind of a Van Halen vibe but it’s got this
really guitar muting things going on that make it sound modern, like if Van
Halen had kept going, you know what I mean? Modern, but still has all the BIG
elements, you know, big guitar, heavy drums, big guitar solo. It wasn’t like
I’m trying to get alternative because I’ve chosen not to live an alternative
lifestyle. [much laughter]
RH: Now that is a classic line! I’m gonna have to put that
on my website in big print. Anyway, Van Halen… you’ve mentioned them quite a
lot. Are they a key influence on the record?
KT: Well they’ve always been, you know, Eddie’s guitar… Not
so much his lead playing but his rhythm playing was always a big influence.
RH: That behind-the-beat thing that he does…
KT: Yeah, exactly. I just love that, you know. I can’t
escape that. That and AC/DC rhythms have been my favourite kinds of… you know,
I just love stuff like that.
RH: The last big
rock record you did was Shout Back. How is Wake the Nations? Does
it follow on from that? Is it kind of Shout but…
KT: I would say it’s about five times as good as that
record. I think the reason for that is that when we did the Shout Back
album, again it was… I felt like I was trying to fit in a mould where I knew
that people expected and wanted to hear Shout. You know what I mean? They were
expecting to hear Shout making a reunion album. It wasn’t Ken Tamplin going
nuts. It was how do I take this paradigm from back then and this mould from
back then and still make it cohesive for today. The opening song sounds like
Lenny Kravitz rather than Shout, which is kinda cool because it’s a little
modern and whatever but it didn’t stray too far away from Shout. Well, then
there are other things in there that are like your typical big anthemic things
that to me are a little trite now, that I wouldn’t have necessarily have done
for myself because I felt like it was a little to trite. But I felt like if I
didn’t do that, Shout fans would have been disappointed. Whereas in this
record, I just got to do what I wanted.
RH: So you think that going under the name Tamplin gives you
that freedom?
KT: I don’t really know, other than I know a lot of people
have got so many different styles from me that they probably don’t know what to
expect anymore. [laughs] And hopefully that’s a good and a bad thing.
RH: So…
KT: What’s your email address?
RH: [I tell him]
KT: Oh that’s right… oh that’s YOU! You funny guy!
RH: Oh yeah, I know…I’m scum!
KT: You’re the guy that was bagging on me… [Ken is referring
to some tough questions I asked him at his website about similarities between
some of his songs]
RH: I don’t know, some of it was in bad taste…
KT: Actually I think some of the things you said were
appropriate I just think there could be different ways of saying some things.
What I’m gonna do is send you… don’t send this to anybody dude,
please…I’m gonna send you a couple of little peaks at a couple of the tunes.
It’s not final mixes and it’s not mastered yet, but you can kinda see what I’m
talking about. Because the “Wake the Nations” on the Tamplin page (www.kentamplin.com) is just a demo, just
a poor demo, nothing more than that. These are actual tracks that are basically
done. I will send you “The Story of Love”. What’s cool about this song is the
lyric is just indicative for me of the story of Christ, but not the way other
people tell the story of Christ:
“You came down born from above,
Born in the ghettos of the city,
Your aim was to show the world how to love
So you healed the sick and needy
Did we show our gratitude or reveal our attitude?
We hung you to a cross
That’s the story of love.” So it’s like a dichotomy: On the
one hand, all you (Christ) did for us was good, and when people think of Christ
they think of [angry, swearing voice] “Oh JESUS CHRIST, JE-SUS-CHRIST”. I’m
surprised people don’t say, instead of saying “God damn it!” they should say
“Ah, Satan dammit!” You know, they never do that, and it’s kinda interesting,
but, how people have such a vehement hatred towards Christ, which is weird
because when you read his story he did nothing to cause people to hate him,
which is weird, other than help people. I’m sure a lot of what’s been done in
the name of Christ over the years which is man’s fault, not God’s fault, is
wrong. I just wanted to write a song about it. I’ll send it to you. It’s me and
Jeff Scott Soto.
RH: Oh… the voice of the movie Rock Star.
KT: Yeah. It’s a good track. It’s me playing the solo with
Scott Van Zen.
RH: Anything else you’d like to say?
KT: Uh, where is this going out?
RH: It’s going on my website. I’ll email it all to you.
KT: Well, let me know what you think of the track. I think
you’ll like it. OK bro… have a great day.
[A few irrelevant bits of chit chat ensue before the
conversation comes around to Alice Cooper]
KT: Now there’s another Christian, Alice Cooper. He just
became a Christian a few years ago.
RH: Yeah, I’m a bit confused about when that was because he
was on TV saying that “Poison” was a message of morality [1989] but his first
full-on Christian album was The Last Temptation [1994].
KT: That’s a good question. I was thinking back around the
“Poison” era too that that was about the time he had a conversion. When was
that? 1996?
RH: Poison was 1989.
KT: Oh it was that long ago? No way! You’re kidding. I don’t
think he was a Christian back then. I think it was after that because I
remember talking to Ken Mary [Impellitteri, Tamplin drummer] who was his
drummer back then, and he said he wasn’t. Ken Mary was his drummer in ’91. Huh…
okay. Kinda interesting. OK, well I’ll look forward to hearing back from you, hearing
what you think about the tune, and hearing the interview. OK man, have a great
day.